No. All accounts which can download the current will still be able to when the current series becomes 4.1, those who still haven't upgraded will see 4.0 as it becomes the legacy series, and 3.4 will end.
I wouldn't expect another upgrade fee for a couple of years, and at that point it'll be enouraged-but-optional, like this one, since it worked well this time.
Paul Was just curious. Didn't mind paying for the upgrade before especially with all the new features you added to it. Just wanted to know what to expect is all.
I'm almost done with features, could release an alpha any time but I think I'll do some testing first. The hope is that I can find someone willing to let me pay them to do a template set. One person expressed interest but I haven't heard back again. It's amazing how hard it is to get people to let me throw money at them, especially when I let them name their own hourly rate. Anyhow, the template design will presumably take a few weeks and once it's done I'll release a beta. If nobody bothers to use the beta then a bug-riddled 4.1.0 will be released shortly after... if people do use the beta then the beta process will be extended as long as needed to have a good final 4.1.0.
Edit: I should note that 4.0.x will continue to be supported for the foreseeable future, probably to the end of the year, since 4.1 is looking like a difficult upgrade.
That wasn't a list of what's new, just a poll to help decide.
At the moment: - 20% faster in my tests - now using XHTML, instead of HTML 4.01 - customizable common tasks list for admin panel - compact help browser - grouped switches by their logical dependancies, changed to checkboxes - switch for all reciprocal link related material - moved admin panel to templates/admin for independence - removed admindir length restriction - upgrade.php now automatically unlocks to non-admins when it detects the upgrade has not been run yet - moved ppc search plugins to own directory, any file added is autolisted as search plugin - compacted secondary usergroup category permissions processing, hopefully not breaking anything - improved/centralized search highlighting - option to turn multilingual template set into monolingual - custom attachment fields can be used on any type of object now - custom rating fields can be used on any type of object now - centralized redirects and ensured they can pass custom templates along to destination - added the modcp reports page from wsn forum - filterable bulk edit categories page - filterable bulk edit links page - member list sort options for last login date and user group - now using language item for currency sign ($), to ease changing it - search for member usergroups - link searches can now be sorted by rotating letter - switch to turn avatars off - chat room - shoutbox - quotes system - [INSERTFILE=] can now process urls in addition to local templates - language replacements are now done on template load, so that template vars and conditionals always work in language items - admin menu state changes now stick across sessions - all $_SERVER vars are now available as global template vars {SERVER_X} - in-template method to set a custom wrapper: <!-- usewrapper=wrapper2 --> - color scheme wizard, and simplified stylesheet - pagination centralized to a template with {PAGINATION} - some cleanup on the 'advanced' page - [url=] and [size=] wsn codes now yield valid html whether the user quotes the parameter or not - flatfile (incl CSV) import for categories - category jump selector now obeys rewriting - dropped translation of index.php... link.php... urls to rewritten, you must use {CATURL}, {LINKDETAILSURL} now - url rewriting allowing full category path in the details, outgoing link and thread urls - installation option: choose full-featured (all switches on) or simple (most switches disabled) - option to rewrite ampersands - guestbook reply notification option in profile - whole site IP bans write to .htaccess when it's available - localization settings working same in multilingual as english - option for member to subscribe to notifications of matches for a list of keywords - ability to pass the login in url - custom titles specification page - email preview is now templated - distinct hits in switch - unsubscribe-from-everything-at-once link - subcategories now inherit permissions from parents unless otherwise specified (requires regeneration after upgrade) - conditionals in email subject lines - integration generator now prompts for the registration url - included moderator whiteboard from WSN Forum - centralized navigation bit - category types switch - {FUNC_PROTECTTEXT[{LINKEMAIL}]} template function available to disguise cleartext emails into ascii codes for (flawed) spam protection - searchable fields for members - <!-- BEGIN TYPE TOTALS --> area that lists totals for all types of links in the category - similar categories - utility to remove unused language items - required fields for calendar - ability to make calendar events span multiple days - subcats html can now differ by template, html changes no longer require regeneration - pluggable functions - for WSN integration, the category name now accurately reflects which site it's on if $registrationurl is set - menu frame refreshes after changing switches, so that appropriate options show automatically - cookie path/domain can now be overriden in config.php/tweaks.php using $cookiepath and $cookiedomain - template variable {TIME} which provides current unix timestamp - admin panel option to show items which have not yet taken effect - when deleting category, an option to auto-transfer all links/posts/feeds to specified category - import option to scrape links from a page and place result in the 'bulk add' box - 'protected fields' list to make sure only admins can set/change certain data - censor page option to decide if titles should be censored - option to give a particular thread a custom order - search log now records advanced searches - usergroup permission to limit the number of total aliases per member (across all links) - optional 'next page' and 'previous page' links in pagination - SEO option to serve noindex/nofollow to non-rewritten URLs - admin stats page moved to template - submitters can add an RSS feed whose items will be inserted into the directory daily - reorganized usergroup permissions based on type of item - switch for PAD files - auto-updating of link details based on the PAD data every x days - option to recip-check links after 48 hours automatically, then re-verify each month - tagging, tag cloud - listing of changed language items on upgrade, with automatic update of uncustomized items. - YESNODEFAULT} template variable appendage to show a selector with the options use default, yes and no - per-category sponsorship - post bit, to simplify templates a little - when translating, the language page brings you to the next set automatically after updating - {ATTACHDOWNLOADURL} to give the download url for an attachment without bothering to type it out
A few more to come but that's going to be most of it.
Comments on 4.1 question
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Posted Apr 25, 2007 - 9:32 PM:
Paul,
When you release 4.1 are you going to charge a fee again to upgrade?
Liz
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No. All accounts which can download the current will still be able to when the current series becomes 4.1, those who still haven't upgraded will see 4.0 as it becomes the legacy series, and 3.4 will end.
I wouldn't expect another upgrade fee for a couple of years, and at that point it'll be enouraged-but-optional, like this one, since it worked well this time.
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Paul
Was just curious. Didn't mind paying for the upgrade before especially with all the new features you added to it. Just wanted to know what to expect is all.
Liz
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Anyone has clue of when v4.1 is expected to be released?
Thanks
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I'm almost done with features, could release an alpha any time but I think I'll do some testing first. The hope is that I can find someone willing to let me pay them to do a template set. One person expressed interest but I haven't heard back again. It's amazing how hard it is to get people to let me throw money at them, especially when I let them name their own hourly rate. Anyhow, the template design will presumably take a few weeks and once it's done I'll release a beta. If nobody bothers to use the beta then a bug-riddled 4.1.0 will be released shortly after... if people do use the beta then the beta process will be extended as long as needed to have a good final 4.1.0.
Edit: I should note that 4.0.x will continue to be supported for the foreseeable future, probably to the end of the year, since 4.1 is looking like a difficult upgrade.
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Paul... I can do the testing for v4.1.0. Couple of my sites using wsnlinks went down, i lost the data, so re-building the wholes sites again.
I'll look forward for the alpha/beta release of v4.1
Cheers
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Where I can find what is new with 4.1?
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Posted May 06, 2007 - 2:19 AM:
Where I can find what is new with 4.1?
https://www.webmastersite.net/forums/thread/7097
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That wasn't a list of what's new, just a poll to help decide.
At the moment:
- 20% faster in my tests
- now using XHTML, instead of HTML 4.01
- customizable common tasks list for admin panel
- compact help browser
- grouped switches by their logical dependancies, changed to checkboxes
- switch for all reciprocal link related material
- moved admin panel to templates/admin for independence
- removed admindir length restriction
- upgrade.php now automatically unlocks to non-admins when it detects the upgrade has not been run yet
- moved ppc search plugins to own directory, any file added is autolisted as search plugin
- compacted secondary usergroup category permissions processing, hopefully not breaking anything
- improved/centralized search highlighting
- option to turn multilingual template set into monolingual
- custom attachment fields can be used on any type of object now
- custom rating fields can be used on any type of object now
- centralized redirects and ensured they can pass custom templates along to destination
- added the modcp reports page from wsn forum
- filterable bulk edit categories page
- filterable bulk edit links page
- member list sort options for last login date and user group
- now using language item for currency sign ($), to ease changing it
- search for member usergroups
- link searches can now be sorted by rotating letter
- switch to turn avatars off
- chat room
- shoutbox
- quotes system
- [INSERTFILE=] can now process urls in addition to local templates
- language replacements are now done on template load, so that template vars and conditionals always work in language items
- admin menu state changes now stick across sessions
- all $_SERVER vars are now available as global template vars {SERVER_X}
- in-template method to set a custom wrapper: <!-- usewrapper=wrapper2 -->
- color scheme wizard, and simplified stylesheet
- pagination centralized to a template with {PAGINATION}
- some cleanup on the 'advanced' page
- [url=] and [size=] wsn codes now yield valid html whether the user quotes the parameter or not
- flatfile (incl CSV) import for categories
- category jump selector now obeys rewriting
- dropped translation of index.php... link.php... urls to rewritten, you must use {CATURL}, {LINKDETAILSURL} now
- url rewriting allowing full category path in the details, outgoing link and thread urls
- installation option: choose full-featured (all switches on) or simple (most switches disabled)
- option to rewrite ampersands
- guestbook reply notification option in profile
- whole site IP bans write to .htaccess when it's available
- localization settings working same in multilingual as english
- option for member to subscribe to notifications of matches for a list of keywords
- ability to pass the login in url
- custom titles specification page
- email preview is now templated
- distinct hits in switch
- unsubscribe-from-everything-at-once link
- subcategories now inherit permissions from parents unless otherwise specified (requires regeneration after upgrade)
- conditionals in email subject lines
- integration generator now prompts for the registration url
- included moderator whiteboard from WSN Forum
- centralized navigation bit
- category types switch
- {FUNC_PROTECTTEXT[{LINKEMAIL}]} template function available to disguise cleartext emails into ascii codes for (flawed) spam protection
- searchable fields for members
- <!-- BEGIN TYPE TOTALS --> area that lists totals for all types of links in the category
- similar categories
- utility to remove unused language items
- required fields for calendar
- ability to make calendar events span multiple days
- subcats html can now differ by template, html changes no longer require regeneration
- pluggable functions
- for WSN integration, the category name now accurately reflects which site it's on if $registrationurl is set
- menu frame refreshes after changing switches, so that appropriate options show automatically
- cookie path/domain can now be overriden in config.php/tweaks.php using $cookiepath and $cookiedomain
- template variable {TIME} which provides current unix timestamp
- admin panel option to show items which have not yet taken effect
- when deleting category, an option to auto-transfer all links/posts/feeds to specified category
- import option to scrape links from a page and place result in the 'bulk add' box
- 'protected fields' list to make sure only admins can set/change certain data
- censor page option to decide if titles should be censored
- option to give a particular thread a custom order
- search log now records advanced searches
- usergroup permission to limit the number of total aliases per member (across all links)
- optional 'next page' and 'previous page' links in pagination
- SEO option to serve noindex/nofollow to non-rewritten URLs
- admin stats page moved to template
- submitters can add an RSS feed whose items will be inserted into the directory daily
- reorganized usergroup permissions based on type of item
- switch for PAD files
- auto-updating of link details based on the PAD data every x days
- option to recip-check links after 48 hours automatically, then re-verify each month
- tagging, tag cloud
- listing of changed language items on upgrade, with automatic update of uncustomized items.
- YESNODEFAULT} template variable appendage to show a selector with the options use default, yes and no
- per-category sponsorship
- post bit, to simplify templates a little
- when translating, the language page brings you to the next set automatically after updating
- {ATTACHDOWNLOADURL} to give the download url for an attachment without bothering to type it out
A few more to come but that's going to be most of it.
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Location: England
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Jeez, get's better and better! Thanks Paul
As mentioned, if I can be of any help with testing or templates just let me know
Jill