Alpha 2 is now available. Note the calendar has an unsolved issue of the time getting messed up seemingly randomly when editing an event. These new features have been added since alpha 1:
- a modification installer (XML-based format) - bulk edit categories now works properly for large sites - option to put outgoing links in a frameset - bulkedit.php now handles any field sent to it, not just the presets - conditionals now work in {ADBANNER} - confirms email address change on profile edit when using email confirmation - searches table that replaces searchlog.txt and makes toplists of searches possible - toplist option to sort by most common values of fields - add fields option for a date field - option to check for duplicate recipurls - template conditionals now work in emails - untested attempt at PostgreSQL support (I still need to install postgres myself)
I removed the alpha after alpha 3. It was pretty badly broken and anyhow I've already determined what's going to be included in beta 1 and am just in the long process of testing and fixing everything, so there's no use to the download for the moment. Beta 1 should be available in a week or two and will be suitable for use on production websites (even if only by those willing to upgrade frequently).
There's no reason for them to be independant, it would only hurt them all if features were added and bugs removed from only one at a time. I won't be splicing any 4.00 code into WSN Forum, I'll simply be overwriting WSN Forum's files with the WSN Links 4.00 files at some point (with the exception of the several distinct files), same as I do with any update. The real work involved will be updating the templates to make use of the new features. That said, since there are fewer people to catch WSN Forum bugs I intend to wait until 4.0x is relatively stable before doing that.
You may have noticed several things in the current WSN Forum that aren't in the WSN Links 3 code, but that's because I didn't bother to backport them, I did add them to the WSN Links 4 code at the time. And no, combining them doesn't have any impact on speed outside of a minor RAM usage increase that's almost entirely confined to the 'suggest' and 'edit' pages.
Paul, Would like to suggest the default template to include:
a) At Options: My Published Links (already available). My Pending for Approval Links. My Expired Links or My Run Out of funds Links. -> edited for or instead of and
b) At Admin Panel, The possibility of selecting that when a link runs out of funds, it will be hidden.
peumus wrote: Paul, Would like to suggest the default template to include: a) At Options: My Published Links (already available). My Pending for Approval Links. My Expired Links. My Run Out of funds Links. b) At Admin Panel, The possibility of selecting that when a link runs out of funds, it will be hidden.
Paul wrote: There's no reason for them to be independant, it would only hurt them all if features were added and bugs removed from only one at a time. I won't be splicing any 4.00 code into WSN Forum, I'll simply be overwriting WSN Forum's files with the WSN Links 4.00 files at some point (with the exception of the several distinct files), same as I do with any update. The real work involved will be updating the templates to make use of the new features. That said, since there are fewer people to catch WSN Forum bugs I intend to wait until 4.0x is relatively stable before doing that.
Okay, I wasn't suggesting anything but was just curious if the two were going to diverge for some reason. Now I know that they'll somewhat parallel one another with revisions.
Paul wrote: You may have noticed several things in the current WSN Forum that aren't in the WSN Links 3 code, but that's because I didn't bother to backport them, I did add them to the WSN Links 4 code at the time. And no, combining them doesn't have any impact on speed outside of a minor RAM usage increase that's almost entirely confined to the 'suggest' and 'edit' pages.
Since they're different products I don't compare them too closely or wonder why WSN-Links isn't the same as WSN-Forum despite knowing there is a lot of common code between them.
At the moment we do have Sponsorship based on daily funds deduction.
Taking advantage of the expiration feature I would like to suggest to include another type of Sponsorship mechanism in where the we would stablish a fixed expire days to add and a corresponding amount to be paid for each expire days period added.
This way, at admin panel we could be selecting which mecanism we'll be using for sponsorship. If we'll work with adding funds to a link we select the first, but if we work with adding a fixed amount of days to expiration at a fixed value we select the second.
I know that now the second mechanism can be simmulated with the daily funds deduction but it would be more natural and easy to select this second mechanism for the cases where we are offering to publish a link for a fixed amount of days at a fixed value (and also when we need the link to be hidden after completing the period).
Mr. Damir - As soon as I stop finding bugs on my own and thus need help finding more. I have 7 features left to test, another 6 that I know to be broken in one way or another and need to fix, 32 features adequately tested and at least one more I'd like to add. Then I'll upgrade one of my installs to ensure there are no new upgrade issues. Perhaps a week. I plan to make this more reliable and suitable for use than my past betas have been.
peumus - When you post feature suggestions in a release notes thread they're going to be lost. Use the feature suggestions thread.
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Alpha 2 is now available. Note the calendar has an unsolved issue of the time getting messed up seemingly randomly when editing an event. These new features have been added since alpha 1:
- a modification installer (XML-based format)
- bulk edit categories now works properly for large sites
- option to put outgoing links in a frameset
- bulkedit.php now handles any field sent to it, not just the presets
- conditionals now work in {ADBANNER}
- confirms email address change on profile edit when using email confirmation
- searches table that replaces searchlog.txt and makes toplists of searches possible
- toplist option to sort by most common values of fields
- add fields option for a date field
- option to check for duplicate recipurls
- template conditionals now work in emails
- untested attempt at PostgreSQL support (I still need to install postgres myself)
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Would be nice if when validating we could have a [custom validate] too.
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It's already there, "Custom Accept". It's not new to 4.0 either, it's been in the 3.3.x series for some time.
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It's already there, "Custom Accept". It's not new to 4.0 either, it's been in the 3.3.x series for some time.
I really must read my posts to make sure they say just what I mean!! Sorry!
I meant when approving a new member, not links. The choice is only custom reject, well on my sites anyway <G>
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Paul,
What happened to the experimental downloards? Can't find 4.0 Alpha 2 download.
Liz
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I too am wondering where the 4.0 version is - alpha 1 has disappeared and can't find alpha 2
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I removed the alpha after alpha 3. It was pretty badly broken and anyhow I've already determined what's going to be included in beta 1 and am just in the long process of testing and fixing everything, so there's no use to the download for the moment. Beta 1 should be available in a week or two and will be suitable for use on production websites (even if only by those willing to upgrade frequently).
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Hi Paul,
Sounds like a nice release of 'Links' in progress.
I wanted to ask, with respect of the previous common code used among some of the products, will this still be the case?
My concern is with the Forum script and if you'll be splicing in 4.00 code or will these two products become more independant of each other.
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There's no reason for them to be independant, it would only hurt them all if features were added and bugs removed from only one at a time. I won't be splicing any 4.00 code into WSN Forum, I'll simply be overwriting WSN Forum's files with the WSN Links 4.00 files at some point (with the exception of the several distinct files), same as I do with any update. The real work involved will be updating the templates to make use of the new features. That said, since there are fewer people to catch WSN Forum bugs I intend to wait until 4.0x is relatively stable before doing that.
You may have noticed several things in the current WSN Forum that aren't in the WSN Links 3 code, but that's because I didn't bother to backport them, I did add them to the WSN Links 4 code at the time. And no, combining them doesn't have any impact on speed outside of a minor RAM usage increase that's almost entirely confined to the 'suggest' and 'edit' pages.
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Paul,
Would like to suggest the default template to include:
a) At Options:
My Published Links (already available).
My Pending for Approval Links.
My Expired Links or My Run Out of funds Links. -> edited for or instead of and
b) At Admin Panel,
The possibility of selecting that when a link runs out of funds, it will be hidden.
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Paul, Would like to suggest the default template to include: a) At Options: My Published Links (already available). My Pending for Approval Links. My Expired Links. My Run Out of funds Links. b) At Admin Panel, The possibility of selecting that when a link runs out of funds, it will be hidden.
Oh yes - I like those too
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There's no reason for them to be independant, it would only hurt them all if features were added and bugs removed from only one at a time. I won't be splicing any 4.00 code into WSN Forum, I'll simply be overwriting WSN Forum's files with the WSN Links 4.00 files at some point (with the exception of the several distinct files), same as I do with any update. The real work involved will be updating the templates to make use of the new features. That said, since there are fewer people to catch WSN Forum bugs I intend to wait until 4.0x is relatively stable before doing that.
You may have noticed several things in the current WSN Forum that aren't in the WSN Links 3 code, but that's because I didn't bother to backport them, I did add them to the WSN Links 4 code at the time. And no, combining them doesn't have any impact on speed outside of a minor RAM usage increase that's almost entirely confined to the 'suggest' and 'edit' pages.
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Regarding Link Sponsorship,
At the moment we do have Sponsorship based on daily funds deduction.
Taking advantage of the expiration feature I would like to suggest to include another type of Sponsorship mechanism in where the we would stablish a fixed expire days to add and a corresponding amount to be paid for each expire days period added.
This way, at admin panel we could be selecting which mecanism we'll be using for sponsorship. If we'll work with adding funds to a link we select the first, but if we work with adding a fixed amount of days to expiration at a fixed value we select the second.
I know that now the second mechanism can be simmulated with the daily funds deduction but it would be more natural and easy to select this second mechanism for the cases where we are offering to publish a link for a fixed amount of days at a fixed value (and also when we need the link to be hidden after completing the period).
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When can we expect the first beta?
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Mr. Damir - As soon as I stop finding bugs on my own and thus need help finding more. I have 7 features left to test, another 6 that I know to be broken in one way or another and need to fix, 32 features adequately tested and at least one more I'd like to add. Then I'll upgrade one of my installs to ensure there are no new upgrade issues. Perhaps a week. I plan to make this more reliable and suitable for use than my past betas have been.
peumus - When you post feature suggestions in a release notes thread they're going to be lost. Use the feature suggestions thread.