I'm trying to figure out if this is an issue. I don't think it is, but here are my comments.
I've set member settings for accounts to email activation.
I registered a test member and received two emails at the same time.
The first of course being the activation link. But I did not click the validation link and the email with my login and password came anyway. Is that normal behavior?
It would seem more user friendly to me that that the email showing the user their username and password would not be sent until AFTER they click the activation link.
As it stands now it's slightly confusing to users (from what I've experienced so far). they're like hey I can't get in, and then they get frustrated. *and no, they don't read the warning messages they keep seeing when they try to log in...*smacks forehead*
If this is a hack how much would it cost to do so? (Send the first activation email, they click it and THEN get their welcome email.)
If you happen to drop by my settings and they say "direct" registration, it's because I'm testing something out. I really want to keep email verification to prevent spam entries but not if the current behavior is normal.
Hi, yes sadly it is normal - this has frustrated me too. I switched off the welcome message because, as you say, it confuses people who see the welcome message and believe that's it.
I too would love the system to send the welcome post AFTER they have been activated
Okay then. I'll turn it back to direct registration and hope that the invisible field fools any bots. For somereason my host has turned off GD for captcha, I'll have to look into that.
Do you put the login and password info on the activation email (did you change the template?)
The problem is that passwords are encoded by default, so there's no way to retrieve them after the page on which they're submitted. Saving them somewhere would kinda defeat the point of the password encoding. So an email at time of activation can't include the password.
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I'm trying to figure out if this is an issue. I don't think it is, but here are my comments.
I've set member settings for accounts to email activation.
I registered a test member and received two emails at the same time.
The first of course being the activation link. But I did not click the validation link and the email with my login and password came anyway. Is that normal behavior?
It would seem more user friendly to me that that the email showing the user their username and password would not be sent until AFTER they click the activation link.
As it stands now it's slightly confusing to users (from what I've experienced so far). they're like hey I can't get in, and then they get frustrated. *and no, they don't read the warning messages they keep seeing when they try to log in...*smacks forehead*
If this is a hack how much would it cost to do so? (Send the first activation email, they click it and THEN get their welcome email.)
If you happen to drop by my settings and they say "direct" registration, it's because I'm testing something out. I really want to keep email verification to prevent spam entries but not if the current behavior is normal.
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Hi, yes sadly it is normal - this has frustrated me too. I switched off the welcome message because, as you say, it confuses people who see the welcome message and believe that's it.
I too would love the system to send the welcome post AFTER they have been activated
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Okay then. I'll turn it back to direct registration and hope that the invisible field fools any bots. For somereason my host has turned off GD for captcha, I'll have to look into that.
Do you put the login and password info on the activation email (did you change the template?)
Thanks babrees!
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The problem is that passwords are encoded by default, so there's no way to retrieve them after the page on which they're submitted. Saving them somewhere would kinda defeat the point of the password encoding. So an email at time of activation can't include the password.
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For somereason my host has turned off GD for captcha, I'll have to look into that.
A rudimentary imagemagick captcha is coming in the next release.