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fuee
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fuee
Posted Oct 21, 2007 - 10:44 PM:

Hi Paul,

I'm having issues with the site map regeneration after my upgrade to the latest release of wsnlinks:

1) My site map regeneration is now regenerating my out going links instead of my details page. Im not sure if this occurred because you have removed the "Format for link details rewriting:" from the "Use apache mod_rewrite URL rewriting?" section of "Search Engine Optimization Settings" in the admin section of version 4.1.8 ?

I tried my other wsnlink website version 4.0.39 and the details page shows up in the rss feed with no problems. Although the "Format for link details rewriting:" is available in version 4.0.39 but not in 4.1.8.

This is the write of my url : http://www.gamevilla.com/games/86/

2)The regenerated detail links was messed up more if I leave the following blank while keeping all other options the same in "Search Engine Optimization Settings" :

Format for member link list rewriting:
Format for member link list index rewriting:
Format for member list:
Format for profiles:

It now shows http://www.gamevilla.com/games/details/86 instead of http://www.gamevilla.com/games/86/ as in problem 1 above. Both regenerated urls are still out going links and do not lead to my details page.

3)With the following left blank in problem 2 above:

Format for member link list rewriting:
Format for member link list index rewriting:
Format for member list:
Format for profiles:

The regenerated site map now only shows http://www.gamevilla.com/ and not the member url. http://www.gamevilla.com/ is just repeated constantly.

Ill leave my sitemap for you to look at and the regenerated results are from the settings shown from problem #2 and #3 above:

http://www.gamevilla.com/map.xml


4) I just found another issue. My rss feed is also showing the url of the links and not details page, it was pointing to the details page before the upgrade today.



Thanks,
Fuee
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Posted Oct 22, 2007 - 9:51 PM:

1) I haven't removed anything. It's likely that you've combined details and comments pages, which means you're selecting to not have a details page.

2 & 3) Making rewrite urls blank doesn't make any sense and can be expected to produce errors. Rewriting a URL to "" just isn't logical since that's not a valid url.

Details urls in RSS feeds has always been a non-standard tweak in cases where the link has a url. You can pass &usedetails=1 in the URL or put $usedetails = 1; in your tweaks.php.
fuee
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Posted Oct 22, 2007 - 11:07 PM:

Paul wrote:
1) I haven't removed anything. It's likely that you've combined details and comments pages, which means you're selecting to not have a details page.

2 & 3) Making rewrite urls blank doesn't make any sense and can be expected to produce errors. Rewriting a URL to "" just isn't logical since that's not a valid url.

Details urls in RSS feeds has always been a non-standard tweak in cases where the link has a url. You can pass &usedetails=1 in the URL or put $usedetails = 1; in your tweaks.php.


Hey Paul,
1) I dont use the combine comments and details pages for my site although i did activate it once to try it when i first installed version 4.1 I am not sure if that is why the rewrite is messed up. Could it be something in the database that didnt change over when I stopped using the combine details and comment page switch ?

It is just weird that the rewrite for details page from the script is http://www.gamevilla.com/games/detailS/2338 (which ends up being an out going link) but if i remove the 's' from details then ill be directed to the details page http://www.gamevilla.com/games/detail/2338. I dont no why this is occurring, i cant seem to fix it.

Using details for rssfeed works but it is still not the correct rewrite url to my details page.

2) Is it hard to go back to version 4.0.39 from 4.1 ? I m really missing the stability i had with version 4.0.39 sad or can you add "Format for link details rewriting:" to version 4.1.3 ? you had it in version 4.0.39 and that worked fine.

3) For some reason the rewite for member profile does not work in my map.xml as well. Is there a way to just have some rewrite turned off you had that option available in version 4.0.39 for example 'Rewrite member list, profiles and help items? yes or no'

http://www.gamevilla.com/map.xml

Thanks,
Fuee
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 1:16 PM:

1) Show me a screenshot of your SEO settings.

2) Nobody else seems to have seen an option dissapear, so I need to know what you do different. 4.1.8 offers these options: http://www.webmastersite.net/screenshots/27437.jpg . A downgrade would cause a few issues with the new database.

3) You can rewrite profiles to memberlist.php?action=profile&id={MEMBERID} if you want to not use special URLs.

As for sitemaps, here's one I've just generated: http://links.webmastersite.net/map.xml
Looks fine to me, so again, I need to see your settings.
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fuee
Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 8:43 PM:

Paul wrote:
1) Show me a screenshot of your SEO settings.

2) Nobody else seems to have seen an option dissapear, so I need to know what you do different. 4.1.8 offers these options: http://www.webmastersite.net/screenshots/27437.jpg . A downgrade would cause a few issues with the new database.

3) You can rewrite profiles to memberlist.php?action=profile&id={MEMBERID} if you want to not use special URLs.

As for sitemaps, here's one I've just generated: http://links.webmastersite.net/map.xml
Looks fine to me, so again, I need to see your settings.


Hey paul,
I looked at the sseo.tpl and saw this :

<IF not {SWITCH_DETAILCOMMENTS}><br />Format for {NAMEFORLINKS} details rewriting: <input type="text" name="rewritelinkname" size="50" value="{REWRITELINKNAME}"></IF>
</IF>

I dont have the details and comments switch on so thats why i dont have the details rewriting option. Is it possible to give others that dont have that switch turn on to be able to rewrite the detaisl page as well ?

Ill try to get a screen shot for you of my seo page, I just need to figure out how. I actually downgraded my site to 4.1.3 last night but all the problems i mentioned still exist in this version as well.

Thanks,
Fuee
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 10:54 PM:

Hey paul,

1) I went ahead and did this with ssoe.tpl and now it works fine now (changesd were done for version 4.1.8:
I changed this -

<IF {SWITCH_COMMENTS}>
<br />Format for thread rewriting: <input type="text" name="rewritethread" size="50" value="{REWRITETHREAD}">
<IF not {SWITCH_DETAILCOMMENTS}><br />Format for {NAMEFORLINKS} details rewriting: <input type="text" name="rewritelinkname" size="50" value="{REWRITELINKNAME}"></IF>
</IF>

to this -
<IF {SWITCH_COMMENTS}>
<br />Format for thread rewriting: <input type="text" name="rewritethread" size="50" value="{REWRITETHREAD}"></IF>
<IF not {SWITCH_COMMENTS}><br />Format for {NAMEFORLINKS} details rewriting: <input type="text" name="rewritelinkname" size="50" value="{REWRITELINKNAME}"></IF>


now 'Format for link details rewriting:' shows up and is modifiable for me. My site map and rss feed are now running correctly for the details page too.

2) The rewrite for member profile still does not work though. I used your tip above to not have the rewrite and this came up in the map.xml

www.gamevilla.com/memberlis...tion=profileampersandid=92

3) I added a pdf file of my updated soe page with out the if statement for details rewriting, sorry i dont know how to take a jpg screen shot on my comp.

thanks,
Pete

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Posted Oct 24, 2007 - 10:27 AM:

1)
I dont have the details and comments switch on so thats why i dont have the details rewriting option.

No, it's the opposite of that. People who do have the detail-comments switch on don't see the option.

Maybe you have the comments switched off, but the detail-comments switched on somehow?

I need a screenshot of your switches to know what you're doing.

2) Since ampersands are rewritten I guess that won't work, so it can't be turned off. Not sure what your reason for wanting it off is though.

3) You have the member list box empty. Write something here. The default is 'members'.

The ID}/{PAGE}/ style of rewriting was problematic pre-4.1.9 for threads, not sure about for categories.

You're missing the trailing slash for link details though it probably doesn't matter.
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Posted Oct 25, 2007 - 1:09 AM:

hey Paul,

here is my switch page, really havent touch anything besides upgrading to a newer version last night.

1) I think the way u set up switch for comments is that unless you click on the comment switch the combine comment and detail switch does not show up, so im not sure how that will be possible unless there is a bug some where that dont let you switch off the combine comment and details page once you used it ?

2)I dont mind leaving it on but the links in the rewritten map.xml file for member profile do not work so i just prefer the SE to not even index it, thats all or at least wait until you can find a solution for it.

Thanks,
Fuee

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Posted Oct 26, 2007 - 5:47 AM:

1) I'm betting that if you check the comments box there, you'll find that 'combine details and comments' is still checked. Turn on comments, then turn off the combo before turning off comments. 4.1.8+ no longer allow you to turn off comments without turning off the combo, but previous misconfigurations will stick until changed.

2) There's no guarantee that not listing in a sitemap stops indexing anyway. Use a noindex meta tag to prevent indexing. In the <head> section of the wrapper,
<IF {CURRENTURL} contains memberlist.php>
<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" />
</IF>
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